Moore defends plan to forgive debt to hall

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Moore defends plan to forgive debt to hall
Moore defends plan to forgive debt to hall
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 Posted 9/19/2012 5:36:30 AM
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How is it that the rv/mh hall of fame on the northeast corner of county roads 6 and 17 within the city limits of elkhart in the first place?  Is or was this part of mike yoders plan of turning elkhart county into an "urban county" by having cities gobble up the unincorporated parts of the county anywhere and everywhere they can?  Is this part of that water tower deal just east of heaton lake that has the city limits all the way up to the state line to at least c.r.17/m217, and now apparently east of 17?  Is this all about gobbling everyone up to make budgets happen?  You live in what was the rural county, but now live in the city because of someones budget shortfalls and they need your driveway and mailbox to fix THEIR self inflicted problems?  Or is this just more of that boob, mike yoders all the world is one happy city of it takes a village idiot boloney?

Clearly these yahoos do not have the resources to deal with what is or was on their plates to begin with, so why then are they biting off more than they can chew or wants to be chewed by them, at not their personal expense, but TAXPAYER expense?
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 Posted 9/19/2012 7:20:04 AM
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HardTo Deny;   Most of the areas of which you speak asked to be annexed into the city because of several factors.  They wanted city sewer and water connections, city fire protection, which would save them thousands of dollars every year, and city police protection.  Indiana state law also stipulates that if a certain per centage of land owners do not want to be annexed in they can not be.  Check all of the facts before you go running off at the mouth!
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 Posted 9/19/2012 7:27:41 AM
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I disagree with this decision.  Perhaps a long term payment plan could have been reached....that is a lot of money to "forgive"...especially when it wasn't his to forgive in the first place.  With a shortfull on a budget, this is not the way to go about fixing it....especially when I just read it is going to cost $60k to come up with a plan to remove the old beardsley building.....not including the demo work....It would be nice to come up with a plan soon, while the crews are at the miles property knocking down buildings there too....

There is a lot of waste and "Forgiveness" of tax dollars going on here....
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 Posted 9/19/2012 7:29:08 AM
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ltjomefdr (9/19/2012)
  Most of the areas of which you speak asked to be annexed into the city because of several factors.  They wanted city sewer and water connections, city fire protection, which would save them thousands of dollars every year, and city police protection.  Check all of the facts before you go running off at the mouth! 


So, that farm field surrounding the rv/mh home place wanted to be annexed into the city?  From c.r.11 to east of c.r.17 all the way up to the state line, wanted to be annexed into the city limits?  most of which is rural?  I could be wrong, but my guess is that the city needs or needs revenue, more revenue to fix its self inflicted problems and wounds, so...

Where is the closest city of elkhart fire station or police substation to those areas, giving those owners what they wanted and are now apparently paying for?
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 Posted 9/19/2012 7:47:26 AM
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"...Moore said the city was left with little choice but to reach some kind of agreement. Otherwise, seeking payment would likely result in a lawsuit and could have pushed the hall toward bankruptcy, Moore told the council...."

Are we to believe from that statement the Hall would have chosen a path leading to possible self- destruction rather than negotiate in good faith?

Ironic that we should read past statement on behalf of the Hall claiming they are exempt from the previous outstanding 2+ year bill; but are now willing to pay all future bills for the same service? Yet they would have previously been willing to stand their ground and apparently have been willing to face bankruptcy over a matter of principle?

Perhaps the people of Elkhart would be better off if his Honor were to actually take that 5 day furlough next year rather than just waive the equivalent income and remain on the job.


Edited: 9/19/2012 7:52:32 AM by myVoice
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Perhaps the people of Elkhart would be better off if his Honor were to actually take that 5 day furlough next year rather than just waive the equivalent income and remain on the job.


How about a yearlong furlough?
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The RVHF is not in the City limits but is provided water/sewer from Elkhart City from a compact agreement.  The rate is higher than those of us that live within the city limits and the money paid from compact agreement customers funds the Greater Elkhart Fund.  It represents cash to the City or equivalent of 958 furlough days.
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DHenke (9/19/2012)
  The RVHF is not in the City limits but is provided water/sewer from Elkhart City from a compact agreement.  


Thank you for clarifying that.

I used to think that the annexed or extended boundary of the city of elkhart was contained within c.r.6 and c.r.17, until that water tower on c.r.15 just north of the toll road, and just south of c.r.4 breached that for whatever reason that a city of elkhart water tower could not have been placed within city limits a baseballs throw away to the south.  Personally, i like to keep cities, all cities, contained and away, or quarantined.  Let the city bosses keep their stuff to themselves, even in yoders idea of an "urban county".
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He should have let them declare bankruptcy. At least during the settlement a recovery of some funds may have been possible. There would have been no negotiating with any ordinary citizen of Elkhart, utilities would have been discontinued and a lien placed againts their property until payment was paid in full. Morally the Mayor needs to take an unpaid leave of 100 days to assist the city government in recapturing the 150,000.00 and at the same time giving the community time to reconsider his worth and possibly figuring out how to delete his position all together. Henke seems to be the only sane person left in city government that cares if the community thrives and doesn't die a horrible death. One thing about annexation is that eventually you have annexed a group of voters and angered enough voters that they will vote you out.
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