It’s the last year for giant Goshen Christmas tree

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It’s the last year for giant Goshen Christmas tree
It’s the last year for giant Goshen Christmas tree
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 Posted 12/8/2013 7:35:40 AM
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What? Can't they "Plasticize" this tree to preserve it like China did with those cadavers a few years back? Heck pretty much everything else associated with Christmas has already been plasticized anyways........
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 Posted 12/8/2013 7:52:17 AM
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There was a man down the road when I was a kid who had a big tree that he put lights on each year. Everyone in the neighborhood loved that tree. One fall he had an accident and broke his leg - it was going to be in a cast till after New Year's day - so he couldn't do the tree. My Mom and my Aunt (who lived next door) decided to throw a 'light the tree' party - and the neighborhood got their ladders and strung the lights for him (and took them down later, also.)

It is one of my fond memories.

And, while some might think I'm silly or wacky - My sympathy to Gene Stutsman on the loss of your tree - the loss is real.
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 Posted 12/9/2013 10:13:30 AM
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If it is a pine tree please don't burn it in a fire place as the sap will quickly build up in the chimney as creosote and could cause a serious fire.  Well dried or not.
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 Posted 12/9/2013 10:29:10 AM
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I've never made it a point to go to Goshen to see the tree....but I will this year. 
Beautiful photo of Dr. and Mrs. Stutsman. 
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 Posted 12/9/2013 1:51:08 PM
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If it is a pine tree please don't burn it in a fire place as the sap will quickly build up in the chimney as creosote and could cause a serious fire.  Well dried or not.


Burning well dried pine isn't going to cause a chimney fire, especialyy if you mix it with other wood. In fact pine is the best kindling there is and a pine log can give you a quick warm up when you need it. We have a wood stove and burn pine occasionally. As long as you keep your chimney clean - which you have to do anyway - it wouldn't hurt.
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 Posted 12/10/2013 12:55:45 AM
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If it is a pine tree please don't burn it in a fire place as the sap will quickly build up in the chimney as creosote and could cause a serious fire.  Well dried or not.


Burning well dried pine isn't going to cause a chimney fire, especialyy if you mix it with other wood. In fact pine is the best kindling there is and a pine log can give you a quick warm up when you need it. We have a wood stove and burn pine occasionally. As long as you keep your chimney clean - which you have to do anyway - it wouldn't hurt.


John Suermann of the U.S. Department of Energy has recommended that people do not burn pine in fireplaces due to safety concerns. He states that "it is not a good idea to burn pine products in your home.  Pine products, due to the resin in them, burn very hot... and the pine tar in the combustion products coats the inside of the flue, leading to a potential fire hazard. In short, do not burn pine wood products in your fireplace or in the open or you are asking for big trouble."
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If it is a pine tree please don't burn it in a fire place as the sap will quickly build up in the chimney as creosote and could cause a serious fire.  Well dried or not.


Burning well dried pine isn't going to cause a chimney fire, especially if you mix it with other wood. In fact pine is the best kindling there is and a pine log can give you a quick warm up when you need it. We have a wood stove and burn pine occasionally. As long as you keep your chimney clean - which you have to do anyway - it wouldn't hurt.


John Suermann of the U.S. Department of Energy has recommended that people do not burn pine in fireplaces due to safety concerns. He states that "it is not a good idea to burn pine products in your home.  Pine products, due to the resin in them, burn very hot... and the pine tar in the combustion products coats the inside of the flue, leading to a potential fire hazard. In short, do not burn pine wood products in your fireplace or in the open or you are asking for big trouble."

Well, now - people out west have very little except pine and cedar to burn. It's funny how the government seems to know more than people who have been burning wood for generations, isn't it? And of course, the government has to idiot proof EVERYTHING and we all believe EVERYTHING the government says, don't we?

Burning wood is like burning leaves - have a little common sense and follow a few simple rules and it's perfectly safe. Some people blow their fingers off by misusing fireworks and some people shoot themselves while cleaning their guns - who's at fault?
The idea that pine is any more 'dangerous' than any other wood is misinformation propagated by people who don't know any better.

FYI - ANY wood has resins and will produce creosote, especially if it isn't seasoned. The thing you have to do is CLEAN YOUR CHIMNEY!!! If you clean your chimney you don't have to worry about ANY build-up and therefore you WILL NOT have a chimney fire no matter what you burn. But then, some idiots can't grasp that simple concept. Don't clean your chimney and you will likely have a chimney fire eventually, even if you burn seasoned oak.

Further, if your chimney is a straight up chimney, there is virtually NO build up if you burn it hot. My brother burns nothing but cut-offs (which are ALL pine BTW) plywood and chipboard (which the Government will also tell you not to burn) to heat his business garage. He has NEVER had a chimney fire or any trouble AT ALL because he maintains his stove properly and has some sense.


I really don't get why the government guy says that outside burning is a problem, either - I'll bet lots of people have burned old two-by-fours in bonfires. You do realize that virtually ALL construction lumber is pine, don't you?

Now, you can quote your so-called government experts - who probably never touched a wood stove - but I've had a wood stove in my house for virtually all my life. All it takes is some common sense and know-how to avoid trouble.
I lived in a block house with a barrel stove and we burned nothing but pine for a whole winter and never had any chimney fires or any build up as the pipe went straight up.

Here's some folks who actually know what they are talking about:

Pine Causes Creosote?

Burning Pine in an Indoor Wood Stove

Is wood from pine trees good for firewood in a wood burning stove?

How to Build a Hot Wood Stove Fire Read

Can I Use Pine Or Cedar For Firewood?

Pine Firewood

I just love 'experts' that think they know better than people who have actually DONE something.

The law says that bicycles have as much right to the road as cars do - and that riding two abreast is legal, but some feel free to ignore laws, much less 'advice'. And some people think they know more about how anti-lock brakes work and in what conditions than mechanics and professional drivers.
Of course, they are wrong, but don't expect them to ever admit it.
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do you ever just shut the F#@* up?
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[b]katetruth (12/10/2013) Of course, they are wrong, but don't expect them to ever admit it.




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